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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AdmundfortGeographer" data-source="post: 9393853" data-attributes="member: 4682">This is complicated and up to interpretation.Supposedly, at the time it was published Gary said things implying that Greyhawk now for those who game in it, that any advancement to the setting was under their control.But nearly immediately Gary’s column in Dragon Magazine (titled From the Sorcerer’s Scroll) he was describing battles and army movements of forces in the setting, and setting up further conflict points. Undeniably advancing beyond the material as published.Allegedly this was towards advancing development of an armies-related wargaming product that never saw production. Or was shelved in development. This was way back in the early years of Dragon magazine.Many years later, Greyhawk Wars/From the Ashes essentially takes many of those conflicts described in From the Sorcerer’s Scroll, puts them into canon events, and then more or less takes the angle that the evil or chaos forces ended up winning all of them. Then added a few more to spread the vibe of “bad guys winning” across the whole subcontinent, and that those bad guys had a lot of extraplanar alliances/patrons that sent legions of demons and devils too. There probably isn’t a hex on the map that is safe, danger and threats are ubiquitous and stakes were substantially raised. One complaint was that Greyhawk was now far too dangerous as very high level encounters could be everywhere.I can’t speak to any intent to be an insult to Gary. Though the Castle Greyhawk adventure would have a much higher claim towards an intentional insult.</blockquote>

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