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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 9553309" data-attributes="member: 326"><p>Some combination of Inspiration, Indomitable and Luck. <img class="smilie smilie--emoji" alt="🤞" src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f91e.png" title="Crossed fingers :fingers_crossed:" data-shortname=":fingers_crossed:" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" /> </p><p></p><p>Though its still a very tricky save, so I'd probably hope to just kill the dragon in the first round (which would require 8 hits; one of which needs to be a crit). In fairness my character has been unbalanced since it picked up the Blaster Rifle and Power Armour in Stonehell Level 9 (although we did win a virtually impossible fight against four "ED-209's" each dealing 20d6/20d6/28d6 per round to claim those items in the Astronaut's Tomb...for those familiar with the Mega-Dungeon ).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree and its a flaw in the design that becomes extremely pronounced at the Epic Tier (solution below).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes the ridiculous disparity between Strong Ability Score DC's and Weak Ability Score Saves (with no Proficiency) needs addressed at the Epic Tier or the game falls apart. </p><p></p><p>If not addressed it becomes even more compounded in the Immortal Tier - although we can mitigate that by making ability score increases (for the Immortal Ranks) affect all ability scores equally.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, in two ways:</p><p></p><p>1. At Epic Tier Proficiency bonus is added to all saves (the Proficiency Bonus is added to a number of Ability Scores equal to the Proficiency Bonus - so with a +6 Bonus it adds to all ability scores).</p><p></p><p>2. Hero-deities (Divine Rank 1* ) and above get Legendary Resistance themselves</p><p></p><p>*The next "level" after 20th</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 9553309, member: 326"] Some combination of Inspiration, Indomitable and Luck. 🤞 Though its still a very tricky save, so I'd probably hope to just kill the dragon in the first round (which would require 8 hits; one of which needs to be a crit). In fairness my character has been unbalanced since it picked up the Blaster Rifle and Power Armour in Stonehell Level 9 (although we did win a virtually impossible fight against four "ED-209's" each dealing 20d6/20d6/28d6 per round to claim those items in the Astronaut's Tomb...for those familiar with the Mega-Dungeon ). I agree and its a flaw in the design that becomes extremely pronounced at the Epic Tier (solution below). Yes the ridiculous disparity between Strong Ability Score DC's and Weak Ability Score Saves (with no Proficiency) needs addressed at the Epic Tier or the game falls apart. If not addressed it becomes even more compounded in the Immortal Tier - although we can mitigate that by making ability score increases (for the Immortal Ranks) affect all ability scores equally. Yes, in two ways: 1. At Epic Tier Proficiency bonus is added to all saves (the Proficiency Bonus is added to a number of Ability Scores equal to the Proficiency Bonus - so with a +6 Bonus it adds to all ability scores). 2. Hero-deities (Divine Rank 1* ) and above get Legendary Resistance themselves *The next "level" after 20th [/QUOTE]
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