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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9557034" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>No, it really doesn't. Because if the Fighter being banished for a single turn was truly so game changing... then it isn't even an issue for the fighter to make that save once. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"This damage doesn't matter at all, we'll just use our resources to deal with it" Yes, it uses resources to counter the damage. You are aware I have been accounting for evasion and absorb elements and even abilities you seem to have forgotten about this entire time, correct? But you keep acting like I've never thought of Evasion on a dex save even once </p><p></p><p>Again, my point isn't that I beleive that the Dragon's Breath is so deadly it will maim and kill the entire party on its own, just that it isn't so weak as to be a complete non-issue, worthy of nothing but scorn. </p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>XP rewards have never changed based on how many fights you had before. So I have no idea what point you think you are making. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>It can only banish once. Using other legendary actions twice and banishing is still possible. And, again, no Banish is not the only factor in this fight that has any potential of causing issues for the PCs. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're entire issue seemed to be that the dragon had no chance of even singing the party's coattails, unless it could drop 1 PC per round, because it would die so fast to the PCs that it could never do anything effective to them. If that is true, it dying slower would fix that issue. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Flat out false. It can banish one person per turn. That means three characters can still do things to it. So, unless you only have one character capable of dealing damage at level 17, Banish does not make the fight impossible to win. </p><p></p><p></p><p> </p><p></p><p>Why not? Seriously, how is losing 20% of your health in a single attack not worrying for a martial character? Do they only lose hp if it is 50% of their total or more? You just keep asserting that it isn't an issue, but you refuse to elaborate beyond that. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it is more than 1.5 rounds of actions. It is approximately 2 to 2.5 rounds. And the Fighter's AC might not matter, the dragon is hitting at a +17. That hits an AC of 25 on a roll of 8 or better. So, the dragon isn't realistically going to struggle against the Fighter's AC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9557034, member: 6801228"] No, it really doesn't. Because if the Fighter being banished for a single turn was truly so game changing... then it isn't even an issue for the fighter to make that save once. "This damage doesn't matter at all, we'll just use our resources to deal with it" Yes, it uses resources to counter the damage. You are aware I have been accounting for evasion and absorb elements and even abilities you seem to have forgotten about this entire time, correct? But you keep acting like I've never thought of Evasion on a dex save even once Again, my point isn't that I beleive that the Dragon's Breath is so deadly it will maim and kill the entire party on its own, just that it isn't so weak as to be a complete non-issue, worthy of nothing but scorn. XP rewards have never changed based on how many fights you had before. So I have no idea what point you think you are making. It can only banish once. Using other legendary actions twice and banishing is still possible. And, again, no Banish is not the only factor in this fight that has any potential of causing issues for the PCs. You're entire issue seemed to be that the dragon had no chance of even singing the party's coattails, unless it could drop 1 PC per round, because it would die so fast to the PCs that it could never do anything effective to them. If that is true, it dying slower would fix that issue. Flat out false. It can banish one person per turn. That means three characters can still do things to it. So, unless you only have one character capable of dealing damage at level 17, Banish does not make the fight impossible to win. Why not? Seriously, how is losing 20% of your health in a single attack not worrying for a martial character? Do they only lose hp if it is 50% of their total or more? You just keep asserting that it isn't an issue, but you refuse to elaborate beyond that. No, it is more than 1.5 rounds of actions. It is approximately 2 to 2.5 rounds. And the Fighter's AC might not matter, the dragon is hitting at a +17. That hits an AC of 25 on a roll of 8 or better. So, the dragon isn't realistically going to struggle against the Fighter's AC. [/QUOTE]
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