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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9558809" data-attributes="member: 6801228">Sorry, was a little inaccurate in my post, since I've been in a long discussion with Upper_Krust. They had an earlier point that the Ancient Gold needed to drop a PC to 0 every single turn, or with a single action with their fire breath. I think a single action AOE dropping someone with the average damage is a bit too much, and especially if it isn't the only encounter of the day and PC resources like HP at not maxed.Frankly though, this dragon CAN drop PCs in a round or two pretty reliably. If you just spam six Rends (which is the outside of the Lair limit), then the Dragon can output an average of 168 damage, assuming all six hit. Any d8 HD class @level 17 with a con of +4 is looking at 144 average hp (excluding feats, boons, ect). D10's are sitting at 174 with the same assumptions. Now, I think focus firing six attacks at a single target and doing nothing else is a bit... boring and unfun, but they CAN do it.</blockquote>