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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Artamo" data-source="post: 9869282" data-attributes="member: 7046798">I would argue that both characters are less characters than they are motifs? Nebulous threats? They’re not really personalities. R’lyeh being in the Atlantic or Pacific or some fantasy world ocean means less, IMO, than it does what he represents, which is some sleeping destroyer that so ambivalent to the mortal ants around it that he barely recognizes their existence, which honestly is not that different from Azathoth. I’m sure for fans of the Mythos who are deeply entrenched in the books of various authors, there are several nuances, but at my more causal level - I don’t see a lot of characterization there.As for Strahd vs Dracula, there’s still plenty of people who see Strahd as just a Dracula analogue. Had the Hickmans chosen Dracula as their main character 40 years ago, we’d probably still have Dracula firmly entrenched in D&D canon. Clearly, analogues are hit or miss within Ravenloft. Some fans bemoan the loss of Victor Mordenheim, others are far happier with the slightly less obviously Dr. Frankenstein version we have now with Viktra.Ultimately, I just don’t see the changes too Cthulhu being all that tied to him being on Earth rather than him representing an unknowable cosmic threat. I don’t think it’s that hard to put him in Ravenloft.</blockquote>