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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6404397" data-attributes="member: 4937">Agreed.&nbsp; And to a large extent, while there is lots of evidence that balance was important to the 3e team, they failed pretty hard due to lack of adequate testing of high level play.&nbsp; And as the game progressed, power creep became an important marketing tool, undermine the already problematic balance further.&nbsp;&nbsp; To a large extent, I feel balance was the most significant failing of an otherwise very robust, accommodating, and broad system.&nbsp; To deal with the huge balance problems of 3e, pretty much every table had to develop its own elaborate social contracts around how they would play the game.&nbsp;&nbsp; Some embraced to a large extent, &quot;If everything is broken, then nothing is.&quot;&nbsp; Others had elaborate social norms regarding what was uncheesy and acceptable to play and pressured their peers to conform.&nbsp; Others, like me, house ruled like mad to try to make a set of rules where the valid character creation options were approved of by default.Agreed.&nbsp; Most attempts to deal with balance as a problem that can be resolved in the long term fail in actual play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6404397, member: 4937"] Agreed. And to a large extent, while there is lots of evidence that balance was important to the 3e team, they failed pretty hard due to lack of adequate testing of high level play. And as the game progressed, power creep became an important marketing tool, undermine the already problematic balance further. To a large extent, I feel balance was the most significant failing of an otherwise very robust, accommodating, and broad system. To deal with the huge balance problems of 3e, pretty much every table had to develop its own elaborate social contracts around how they would play the game. Some embraced to a large extent, "If everything is broken, then nothing is." Others had elaborate social norms regarding what was uncheesy and acceptable to play and pressured their peers to conform. Others, like me, house ruled like mad to try to make a set of rules where the valid character creation options were approved of by default. Agreed. Most attempts to deal with balance as a problem that can be resolved in the long term fail in actual play. [/QUOTE]

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