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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6405414" data-attributes="member: 85555">Fair can be applied to a lot of different points in a system. But I don't think fair has to mean equal outcomes for all. if it did, then a fair system would make sure no character ever dies and all characters hit when they attack. I am applying fairness to the method of rolling, because to me it is fair if we are all using the same method with the same chances of getting good and bad results. Now I agree, that can lead to disparity in play, but going in we all had the same chances of success and failure, which is fairness. I don't know why you keep insisting on this. I am fine with bad results. Of course I prefer high results. That is part of the fun, hoping you get an 18. But I can accept it when I don't. You seem to be projecting things onto me that just are not there. When I roll a 7 I keep it, when I roll a 5, I keep it and I continue making my character. How is this being &quot;fine with bad results until realize they are actually going to happen&quot;?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6405414, member: 85555"] Fair can be applied to a lot of different points in a system. But I don't think fair has to mean equal outcomes for all. if it did, then a fair system would make sure no character ever dies and all characters hit when they attack. I am applying fairness to the method of rolling, because to me it is fair if we are all using the same method with the same chances of getting good and bad results. Now I agree, that can lead to disparity in play, but going in we all had the same chances of success and failure, which is fairness. I don't know why you keep insisting on this. I am fine with bad results. Of course I prefer high results. That is part of the fun, hoping you get an 18. But I can accept it when I don't. You seem to be projecting things onto me that just are not there. When I roll a 7 I keep it, when I roll a 5, I keep it and I continue making my character. How is this being "fine with bad results until [I] realize they are actually going to happen"?[/I] [/QUOTE]

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