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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6406360" data-attributes="member: 85555">I appreciate the good faith here. I would just add to this, these are not mutually exclusive things. I've already said part of the attraction is the hope of a good roll. I want to roll well, absolutely. Getting an 18 is exciting. But part of the requirement of that excitement is that bad results also be allowed to stand. I think the gambling comparison is a good. That is in fact one of the key draws to the random method for me. But it ceases to be exciting if I can re-roll every bad result I get. I'm fine with 4d6 drop the lowest. I am even okay with doing two sets if that is what the group really wants to do. But anything beyond that and the excitement starts to diminish considerably for me because the higher results become more of a foregone conclusion. So it isn't just about the high results. I want them, but for the excitement of the roll to mean anything to me, there needs to be the possibility of doing poorly. And when a bad result happens I can take it in good spirits and work it into the fun of the game (it is actually one of the unique challenges to rolling stats that sometimes you get stuck with this terrible number and need to make sense of it---having a 4 Dex is very different flavor wise than an 8).&nbsp; I think these discussions are a lot more productive when folks do not assume people in favor of one thing or the other are not trying to pull a fast one.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6406360, member: 85555"] I appreciate the good faith here. I would just add to this, these are not mutually exclusive things. I've already said part of the attraction is the hope of a good roll. I want to roll well, absolutely. Getting an 18 is exciting. But part of the requirement of that excitement is that bad results also be allowed to stand. I think the gambling comparison is a good. That is in fact one of the key draws to the random method for me. But it ceases to be exciting if I can re-roll every bad result I get. I'm fine with 4d6 drop the lowest. I am even okay with doing two sets if that is what the group really wants to do. But anything beyond that and the excitement starts to diminish considerably for me because the higher results become more of a foregone conclusion. So it isn't just about the high results. I want them, but for the excitement of the roll to mean anything to me, there needs to be the possibility of doing poorly. And when a bad result happens I can take it in good spirits and work it into the fun of the game (it is actually one of the unique challenges to rolling stats that sometimes you get stuck with this terrible number and need to make sense of it---having a 4 Dex is very different flavor wise than an 8). I think these discussions are a lot more productive when folks do not assume people in favor of one thing or the other are not trying to pull a fast one. [/QUOTE]

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