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Chess is not an RPG: The Illusion of Game Balance
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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 6413309" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>Yes. That's basic game theory.</p><p></p><p>Okay. But role playing isn't storytelling and RPGs have nothing to do with it.</p><p></p><p>Then no definition can occur. There is no overlap between storygames and roleplaying games except to say that both use the label game. They are utterly different activities.</p><p></p><p>i understand this makes me sound like Mr. Wick who is arguing for all storygames to be the only kind of roleplaying game. But for anyone who has experience with both can see they each deserve their own term to preserve their identity. </p><p></p><p>Anything less becomes exceedingly bland. </p><p></p><p>For example, neither can say they are necessarily human activities. Maybe they could say they are "stuff happening", but I hardly think the community will accept that definition of roleplaying game. (though it did for game).</p><p></p><p>Personally I understand that roleplaying meant something unequivocally different than improvisational acting from the 40s to the early 80s, almost the complete opposite in fact. But since then the term has been conflated with acting. </p><p></p><p>So maybe D&D should stop being called a "role playing game" too, as Mr. Wick says? It will probably kill the game and hobby off which I suspect is the goal here, but the ongoing confusion of terms isn't helping anyone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 6413309, member: 3192"] Yes. That's basic game theory. Okay. But role playing isn't storytelling and RPGs have nothing to do with it. Then no definition can occur. There is no overlap between storygames and roleplaying games except to say that both use the label game. They are utterly different activities. i understand this makes me sound like Mr. Wick who is arguing for all storygames to be the only kind of roleplaying game. But for anyone who has experience with both can see they each deserve their own term to preserve their identity. Anything less becomes exceedingly bland. For example, neither can say they are necessarily human activities. Maybe they could say they are "stuff happening", but I hardly think the community will accept that definition of roleplaying game. (though it did for game). Personally I understand that roleplaying meant something unequivocally different than improvisational acting from the 40s to the early 80s, almost the complete opposite in fact. But since then the term has been conflated with acting. So maybe D&D should stop being called a "role playing game" too, as Mr. Wick says? It will probably kill the game and hobby off which I suspect is the goal here, but the ongoing confusion of terms isn't helping anyone. [/QUOTE]
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