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<blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6415681" data-attributes="member: 85555"><p>I am not suggesting that any attempt to define is rooted in this. I think there are plenty of good reasons to have a working definition of something (even if only to label it for consumers so they can get what they want). In this respect terms like OSR, Story Game, Genre, etc can all be very useful. I think where it is a problem is when people use highly proscriptive definitions and it is clear their definition also just happens to align with their preferred style of play and exclude styles they dislike. Things I generally look for is how is the person arriving at their definition. If they take the OSR and simply try to describe what they see it including, that is fine. No problem. It is when someone starts playing games with root words or tries to reduce to come up with a definition that is obviously meant to exclude certain players, that I have an issue. This is something we see a lot of in gaming discussions and posters often don't realize what is going on so they fall into the trap of accepting a flawed definition and then trying to fit their position within it.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="Bedrockgames, post: 6415681, member: 85555"] I am not suggesting that any attempt to define is rooted in this. I think there are plenty of good reasons to have a working definition of something (even if only to label it for consumers so they can get what they want). In this respect terms like OSR, Story Game, Genre, etc can all be very useful. I think where it is a problem is when people use highly proscriptive definitions and it is clear their definition also just happens to align with their preferred style of play and exclude styles they dislike. Things I generally look for is how is the person arriving at their definition. If they take the OSR and simply try to describe what they see it including, that is fine. No problem. It is when someone starts playing games with root words or tries to reduce to come up with a definition that is obviously meant to exclude certain players, that I have an issue. This is something we see a lot of in gaming discussions and posters often don't realize what is going on so they fall into the trap of accepting a flawed definition and then trying to fit their position within it. [/QUOTE]

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