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Chess is not an RPG: The Illusion of Game Balance
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<blockquote data-quote="prosfilaes" data-source="post: 6418673" data-attributes="member: 40166"><p>That's not an objective question. It doesn't matter how much data you could have, you could redirect the budget of the NSA, FBI and CIA to surveilling gamers, wiretapping their houses, installing cameras over their gaming tables, and analyzing the data, and you still couldn't answer that question. I suspect it wouldn't be that hard to get some counts of how many people are playing gnomes, even if they're rough and partial, or counts on sales of gnome orientated books versus elf orientated books.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I don't know what means coming from the text of the game. You have to study how players make characters to know that. You'd have to know what power meant in game. One argument about wizards vs. fighters in D&D I saw here recently said that AD&D 1 was balanced because the hoards of hirelings protected the wizard at low levels and empowered the fighter at high levels. That doesn't mean anything until you study how people played the game, whether they played it with those types of hirelings.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe that was sometimes true. I also believe it was sometimes not true, and I know that without looking at how people actually play it, you can't tell the difference. It's easy to play D&D as R rated Supers; how many people do? You can't tell without looking at how people play the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What flaws? That's like looking at an airplane engine and talking about judging its flaws while refusing to put it in a windtunnel or on an airplane. And that's something that can theoretically be simulated, unlike human behavior.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="prosfilaes, post: 6418673, member: 40166"] That's not an objective question. It doesn't matter how much data you could have, you could redirect the budget of the NSA, FBI and CIA to surveilling gamers, wiretapping their houses, installing cameras over their gaming tables, and analyzing the data, and you still couldn't answer that question. I suspect it wouldn't be that hard to get some counts of how many people are playing gnomes, even if they're rough and partial, or counts on sales of gnome orientated books versus elf orientated books. I don't know what means coming from the text of the game. You have to study how players make characters to know that. You'd have to know what power meant in game. One argument about wizards vs. fighters in D&D I saw here recently said that AD&D 1 was balanced because the hoards of hirelings protected the wizard at low levels and empowered the fighter at high levels. That doesn't mean anything until you study how people played the game, whether they played it with those types of hirelings. I believe that was sometimes true. I also believe it was sometimes not true, and I know that without looking at how people actually play it, you can't tell the difference. It's easy to play D&D as R rated Supers; how many people do? You can't tell without looking at how people play the game. What flaws? That's like looking at an airplane engine and talking about judging its flaws while refusing to put it in a windtunnel or on an airplane. And that's something that can theoretically be simulated, unlike human behavior. [/QUOTE]
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