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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Bedrockgames" data-source="post: 6419239" data-attributes="member: 85555">I think it is true roleplaying has a double meaning and a lot of folks (myself included) use equivocation on that double meaning to prove their style of play is The Style, the right way. Sometimes I say Roleplaying to mean "talking in character and seeing things through your characters eyes". That is certainly a deep point on the roleplaying spectrum but I think someone who is just controlling a character in the setting can also be said to be roleplaying. It is certainly still an RPG in my opinion, even if people are not talking in character or viewing their character as a piece on a board. To me so long as a world beyond that board exists to be interacted with, your still roleplaying. To me that is the chief difference between an RPG and a board game. All action in a board game needs to be contained within the boundaries of the board...whatever that means for the particular game. Roleplaying games don't limit you to that. One of the reasons the GM exists is to adjudicate actions that were not thought of in advance by the designers. It doesn't have to explicitly say in the rules that you can go to 7/11 and buy coca cola. But if you are in a setting with a 7/11 then the GM will allow you to try. Board Games are not really meant to accommodate that kind of going off the grid, and when they do, it is because they are veering into RPG territory.I think the term Pawn Stance though really muddles things here, because it isn't incompatible at all with talking in character from what I understand. Pawn Stance is more about how you make your decisions as a character. So my understanding is it means using your motives as a player rather than the character's to arrive a a decision (I could be wrong on that, but that is how it has been explained to me). If that is all Pawn Stance is, then I think it really just means "playing yourself" and playing yourself is totally fine in my opinion. My guy might be called Uloff instead of Brendan, but if I am basically making decisions as Brendan, that is still roleplaying IMO. Most people don't play this way, but many do. Again though I think this just shows how problematic these kinds of discussion are because they really ultimately do come down to trying to establish some styles as proper RP and some as being outside what an RPG is supposed to be.</blockquote>

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