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Message: <blockquote data-quote="5ekyu" data-source="post: 7545636" data-attributes="member: 6919838">As I said, MToF adds new trolls. There is no need to amend or alter the standard troll rules. MToF adds the new info needed *if* you are using those trolls.How ridiculous would it be to have the MM troll refer to creating the Rot Troll in the MM but then not have stats for that beast in the MM? Bet those wanting to find fault with 5e would love that design. But hey, obviously, can't please everybody if some have issues with adding more varieties in later products that werent mentioned originally. Huh. Oh well.That MToF of course includes the origin info for its beasties, just like the other books provide whatever they feel is needed - adding new orcs or gnolls or tieflings as they are published. But, its silly to think these would be (or should be)  in the original core before they were published.Same with Chill Touch - really does not seem like the Waves of Necrotic energy as it regenerates has anything to do with chill touch, cuz chill touch stops regen while it does its thing.As for what you tried to say or now re-state claim with your claims that your gm only ever played 5e but did the troll bits bit because it was a dnd trope but now that dud not mean he got it from 5e - whatever. Once you figure out what that story is, I am sure it will make sense somehow to say whatever it was you meant to say.</blockquote>