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<blockquote data-quote="Camarath" data-source="post: 2604170" data-attributes="member: 11987"><p>IMO "<strong>Some touch spells allow you to touch multiple targets as part of the spell.</strong>" clearly indicates that if the spells says you may touch a number of targets you may do so as part of the spell's effect. I believe that this is a specific exception to the Full Attack rule. I think it is clear that any attack preformed as "part of the spell" does not require you to preform an additional Attack or Full Attack actions to make specified attacks. </p><p></p><p>If you must use an additional actions to make attacks granted by spells then the Violent Thrust option of Telekinesis (for example) does not allow one to make any attacks under normal (non-metamagic/non-choker caster) circumstances. Since the spell energy is spent in the same same round as the "1 standard action" casting time one does not have any additional actions to spend on making the attack granted by the spell.</p><p></p><p>"Violent Thrust: Alternatively, the spell energy can be spent in a single round. You can hurl one object or creature per caster level (maximum 15) that are within range and all within 10 feet of each other toward any target within 10 feet per level of all the objects. You can hurl up to a total weight of 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level).</p><p>You must succeed on attack rolls (one per creature or object thrown) to hit the target with the items, using your base attack bonus + your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer). Weapons cause standard damage (with no Strength bonus; note that arrows or bolts deal damage as daggers of their size when used in this manner). Other objects cause damage ranging from 1 point per 25 pounds (for less dangerous objects) to 1d6 points of damage per 25 pounds (for hard, dense objects)."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Camarath, post: 2604170, member: 11987"] IMO "[B]Some touch spells allow you to touch multiple targets as part of the spell.[/B]" clearly indicates that if the spells says you may touch a number of targets you may do so as part of the spell's effect. I believe that this is a specific exception to the Full Attack rule. I think it is clear that any attack preformed as "part of the spell" does not require you to preform an additional Attack or Full Attack actions to make specified attacks. If you must use an additional actions to make attacks granted by spells then the Violent Thrust option of Telekinesis (for example) does not allow one to make any attacks under normal (non-metamagic/non-choker caster) circumstances. Since the spell energy is spent in the same same round as the "1 standard action" casting time one does not have any additional actions to spend on making the attack granted by the spell. "Violent Thrust: Alternatively, the spell energy can be spent in a single round. You can hurl one object or creature per caster level (maximum 15) that are within range and all within 10 feet of each other toward any target within 10 feet per level of all the objects. You can hurl up to a total weight of 25 pounds per caster level (maximum 375 pounds at 15th level). You must succeed on attack rolls (one per creature or object thrown) to hit the target with the items, using your base attack bonus + your Intelligence modifier (if a wizard) or Charisma modifier (if a sorcerer). Weapons cause standard damage (with no Strength bonus; note that arrows or bolts deal damage as daggers of their size when used in this manner). Other objects cause damage ranging from 1 point per 25 pounds (for less dangerous objects) to 1d6 points of damage per 25 pounds (for hard, dense objects)." [/QUOTE]
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