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<blockquote data-quote="Olive" data-source="post: 1209958" data-attributes="member: 1297"><p>This arguement isn't going to get us anywhere, especially as I don't believe that the one I put forward is any more correct than the one you're putting forward. Needless to say there is a reason historians use primary AND secondary sources.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure, but it's still a glorification of war. And writing stories set during a war so that your characters have a noble reason to fight is still a glorification of war. In fact it's a particularly full on glorification. Thinking that just war is a good thing that should be glorified is pretty much exactly what Meilville's talking about. Again, this is difficult to discuss without talkibng politics.</p><p></p><p>I don't neccesarily think that all the things that Meiville points out about Tolkein are actually bad things myself. I just think that Tolkein DOES do all the things (to a greater or lesser degree) that Meiville says he does. Like I said originally, I'm a Tolkein fan. I'm a DnD player for ghod's sake!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olive, post: 1209958, member: 1297"] This arguement isn't going to get us anywhere, especially as I don't believe that the one I put forward is any more correct than the one you're putting forward. Needless to say there is a reason historians use primary AND secondary sources. Sure, but it's still a glorification of war. And writing stories set during a war so that your characters have a noble reason to fight is still a glorification of war. In fact it's a particularly full on glorification. Thinking that just war is a good thing that should be glorified is pretty much exactly what Meilville's talking about. Again, this is difficult to discuss without talkibng politics. I don't neccesarily think that all the things that Meiville points out about Tolkein are actually bad things myself. I just think that Tolkein DOES do all the things (to a greater or lesser degree) that Meiville says he does. Like I said originally, I'm a Tolkein fan. I'm a DnD player for ghod's sake! [/QUOTE]
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