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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Minigiant" data-source="post: 8534842" data-attributes="member: 63508">Then the devil gets up and flies away,Because the monsters are crazily supernatural.Actually it takes more. And it's fine.The issue is some don't want that more to be mandatory.Again. If the games combat is supposed to be based on the fighter having a ton of magic items and casters buffing the fighter to replace items it doesn't have in order to fight supernatural creature, then fine.But if the games is about the DM handing the fighter Mjolnir and a giants belt and the wizard handing him/her a Iron Man suit, ten fans have to be honest, say so, and make it the rule.None of this "The DM is not required to hand the fighter a Mjolnir level legendary item" nonesense. Have Cake or Eat it. Fight devils and dragons or take them out the MM.</blockquote>