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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8535779" data-attributes="member: 84112">um... how many encounters is proper at 20th level? cause 15-18 3rd level spells or higher (plus 10 more levels due to arcane recovery if we give a short rest) and a 1st and 2nd level spell at will plus scaled at wills is ALOT of encounters.lets say 5 encounters then a short rest then 2 more... each average 4 rounds.&nbsp; the first 20 rounds (all 5 encounters) the wizard is 'stuck' with 'only' cantrips 1st and 2nd level spells for 2-5 of them... then in the last 8 rouds (last 2 encounters) has recalled 10 levels of spells lets say 2 3rd and a 4th so that leaves 5 rounds left for 1st second and cantrips...&nbsp; so over 7 encounters the wizard had to use cantrips or 1st and second level spells 7-10 rounds... and has 7 1st and second level spells also rituals...lol less then half is 3-4&nbsp;&nbsp; at 20th level 4 5 round fights and the wizard can forget he knows 1st and 2nd level spellsyup... when the wizard isn't altering reality to suit there wim (lets just say 6th+ level spells) 5/ day and for free casting 2 3rd level spells, and useing a 1st or 2nd level at will they have to do slightly less damage.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8535779, member: 84112"] um... how many encounters is proper at 20th level? cause 15-18 3rd level spells or higher (plus 10 more levels due to arcane recovery if we give a short rest) and a 1st and 2nd level spell at will plus scaled at wills is ALOT of encounters. lets say 5 encounters then a short rest then 2 more... each average 4 rounds. the first 20 rounds (all 5 encounters) the wizard is 'stuck' with 'only' cantrips 1st and 2nd level spells for 2-5 of them... then in the last 8 rouds (last 2 encounters) has recalled 10 levels of spells lets say 2 3rd and a 4th so that leaves 5 rounds left for 1st second and cantrips... so over 7 encounters the wizard had to use cantrips or 1st and second level spells 7-10 rounds... and has 7 1st and second level spells also rituals... lol less then half is 3-4 at 20th level 4 5 round fights and the wizard can forget he knows 1st and 2nd level spells yup... when the wizard isn't altering reality to suit there wim (lets just say 6th+ level spells) 5/ day and for free casting 2 3rd level spells, and useing a 1st or 2nd level at will they have to do slightly less damage. [/QUOTE]

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