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Message: <blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8537756" data-attributes="member: 6704184">No, it doesn't. It is built so that it doesn't break when the DM is generous with magic items, and the APs are run that way because the designers know that more players enjoy getting magic items than don't, but the game is built with the assumption that the few characters with no magic of their own will find a way to deal magical damage on their attacks, if the DM is using things like demon princes. That's it. And the bulk of the argument happening in this and the other related thread isn't about the fighter being able to assume magic items or not! It's about the fighter being able to push themselves to or past the limits of what a normal person could hope to do, or not. The camps are largely about whether Olympic level, sub-olympic level, or mythic level, physical prowess are what the fighter (and I assume the rogue though rogues have a lot more tools in their kit for shennanigans) should be capable of at high level.</blockquote>