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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mordhau" data-source="post: 8542221" data-attributes="member: 7032137">You gave me no overall reason to change my mind.  Being first mover is obviously important, perhaps the most important thing, but it's somewhat absurd to say the qualities of a particular game system play no part whatsover.    If you want to argue that the magic system of D&D does not play any part than you need to address the points I made, not argue that other points are also important (or even more important).I did though.  I conceded that they're important.  I clarified that I phrased myself a little too strongly.I didn't refute points I had no reason to and you repeated earlier points for no clear reason I could see.Indeed.  Is that now clear?  Or will you continue to just assume bad faith on my part?</blockquote>