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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 8544529" data-attributes="member: 6801845">A 20th level fire bolt does 4d10 damage, 22 points and only 1 attack.&nbsp; A 20th level fighter, well it depends on a lot of factors but let's say a +1 longsword and 20 strength.&nbsp; That's minimum 1d8+6 damage for 10.5 and the fighter gets 4 attacks.&nbsp; I'm sure other casters would do a bit more damage, but the fighter damage is also on the extreme low end. If we assume hitting 60% of the time the wizard averaging less than half the fighter.It seems like the biggest issue is the game being built around more than 2-3 encounters per long rest.&nbsp; If you know you can reliably go nova and cast utility spells and you don't use feats and you don't give non-casters magic items that help compensate some of their weaknesses then it can be an issue.&nbsp; I just think it's an issue that can be resolved in many ways.&nbsp; Not least of which is just accepting that there is no such thing as perfect balance and casters and non-casters are always going to have different roles to play.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 8544529, member: 6801845"] A 20th level fire bolt does 4d10 damage, 22 points and only 1 attack. A 20th level fighter, well it depends on a lot of factors but let's say a +1 longsword and 20 strength. That's minimum 1d8+6 damage for 10.5 and the fighter gets 4 attacks. I'm sure other casters would do a bit more damage, but the fighter damage is also on the extreme low end. If we assume hitting 60% of the time the wizard averaging less than half the fighter. It seems like the biggest issue is the game being built around more than 2-3 encounters per long rest. If you know you can reliably go nova [I]and[/I] cast utility spells [I]and[/I] you don't use feats [I]and[/I] you don't give non-casters magic items that help compensate some of their weaknesses then it can be an issue. I just think it's an issue that can be resolved in many ways. Not least of which is just accepting that there is no such thing as perfect balance and casters and non-casters are always going to have different roles to play. [/QUOTE]

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