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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8546759" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>I'm aware of that about going back to the previous night's campsite, but that's not quite the current<em> I don't want to be inconvenienced</em> claim you kept avoiding either. Long ago I pointed out the risk and suggested that I'd require a more firmly linked object after you started arguing strict raw to justify a pebble. I also explained that I wouldn't allow a player to engage in 20 questions with the universe in order to metagame a perceived possible loophole like a branch in support of disregarding the a second gm's protest with what might be technically acceptable yet still random objects.... When given an example of why you need something more firmly linked in the form of a problem you levied accusations of abusing GM fiat yet when asked why the protests however you repeatedly kept indicating that it was just a safe escape thing while ignoring that a more firmly linked object would allow a player to to prepare the safe spot some to ensure it was safe making the continued protests incongruous with their stated reason. </p><p></p><p>The more recent evolution of your reason behind the protest amounting to "<strong>I don't want to" </strong>or "<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8546185" target="_blank">it's merely a convenience</a>" after being pressed repeatedly & failing to state your true objection<strong> is not the same</strong> as the original"<a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8544646" target="_blank">at the absolute worst you are one day from your point of origination</a>" when you were still talking about "random objects" & had not even begun to insist that you did not need more than random objects as you did in the linked post. </p><p></p><p>Not only have you taken on the role of a hostile player in this discussion to a T in your insistence that a GM make no effort to impose reasonable safeguards like the <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8545330" target="_blank">magically linked tea kettle</a> against potentially session collapsing abilities or actually put into play the kind of <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/page-76#post-8544828" target="_blank">risks</a> they allude to if players choose to call what might be an initial bluff of protest at the time, you've also displayed why it's not paranoia to just say no & deny it outright rather than humoring it with long back & forth at the table with a player who wants to hide their cards through omission when pushed for details on your objection. I think the high point of that demonstration was when you quoted me describing a discussion that would need to occur & the reasons for it saying I should instead "TALK" to the player rather than dream up some paranoid fantasy <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8545823" target="_blank">here</a>. Bravo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8546759, member: 93670"] I'm aware of that about going back to the previous night's campsite, but that's not quite the current[I] I don't want to be inconvenienced[/I] claim you kept avoiding either. Long ago I pointed out the risk and suggested that I'd require a more firmly linked object after you started arguing strict raw to justify a pebble. I also explained that I wouldn't allow a player to engage in 20 questions with the universe in order to metagame a perceived possible loophole like a branch in support of disregarding the a second gm's protest with what might be technically acceptable yet still random objects.... When given an example of why you need something more firmly linked in the form of a problem you levied accusations of abusing GM fiat yet when asked why the protests however you repeatedly kept indicating that it was just a safe escape thing while ignoring that a more firmly linked object would allow a player to to prepare the safe spot some to ensure it was safe making the continued protests incongruous with their stated reason. The more recent evolution of your reason behind the protest amounting to "[B]I don't want to" [/B]or "[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8546185']it's merely a convenience[/URL]" after being pressed repeatedly & failing to state your true objection[B] is not the same[/B] as the original"[URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8544646']at the absolute worst you are one day from your point of origination[/URL]" when you were still talking about "random objects" & had not even begun to insist that you did not need more than random objects as you did in the linked post. Not only have you taken on the role of a hostile player in this discussion to a T in your insistence that a GM make no effort to impose reasonable safeguards like the [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8545330']magically linked tea kettle[/URL] against potentially session collapsing abilities or actually put into play the kind of [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/page-76#post-8544828']risks[/URL] they allude to if players choose to call what might be an initial bluff of protest at the time, you've also displayed why it's not paranoia to just say no & deny it outright rather than humoring it with long back & forth at the table with a player who wants to hide their cards through omission when pushed for details on your objection. I think the high point of that demonstration was when you quoted me describing a discussion that would need to occur & the reasons for it saying I should instead "TALK" to the player rather than dream up some paranoid fantasy [URL='https://www.enworld.org/threads/chris-just-said-why-i-hate-wizard-fighter-dynamic.685777/post-8545823']here[/URL]. Bravo. [/QUOTE]
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