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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9579094" data-attributes="member: 6790260">If I am being scrupulously fair and honest: 4e almost certainly did learn lessons from video games, including MMOs (though most likely it would have started from looking at EverQuest, not World of Warcraft, since the latter didn't come out until after work on 4e had already started.)But playing 4e is very little like playing a video game, unless you use only an extremely superficial analysis--in which case, most editions of D&D would be like video games, so the comparison is not very useful.As said above though, I don't think a productive conversation can be had about video game design and what effects it has had on WotC-made editions of D&D. Because, as noted, there are far too many partisans ready, waiting, and eager to pounce on any such discussion.I never "properly" played 2e, as my only exposure to it is through video games like PS:T, IWD, and the first two Baldur's Gate games. So I can't really say whether 5e is or isn't like 2e.But I can say that a lot of people over the years have said something along these lines. A common descriptor during the late D&D Next playtest and the first like 3-4 years of 5e was that the game was "AD&D 3e"--that is, a more fitting successor to 2e than the actual Third Edition was. I never took that claim particularly seriously, but the sheer number of people I've seen make it over the years is certainly worth considering, if nothing else.</blockquote>

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