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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5727693" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I'm not even really sure this diverges at all from RAW. Remember, there is a 'take 10' provision, which if you start thinking about it is pretty much the same sort of idea as 'passive' skills in the sense that characters can be assumed to accomplish a 'baseline' level of performance in a task when they are given routine circumstances (IE not in the middle of a fight or whatever). Thus a guy wandering down a passage deserves a 'passive' (take 10) Dungeoneering check to notice things that are fairly obvious and where you'd assume the character is paying attention (IE exploring a hazardous dungeon). Its possible to quibble about when this kind of take 10 is appropriate, maybe if a monster jumps you then you don't really have time to think about what it is, you can make a check, but you might fail even if you SHOULD know the answer, you're just flustered or whatever.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I think it makes reasonable sense to allow for a basic level of competency in most things and treat situations like 'passive checks' where it makes sense. Really all the rules tell us is when the PCs CAN use their skills, but they certainly can use them in other situations as well.</p><p></p><p>I'd always note too that DMs are always free to set any DCs they want based on a situation, so just because the rules may state a DC for some situation the DM might substitute something else when he wants. I'd call that the DMs most commonly exercised prerogative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5727693, member: 82106"] I'm not even really sure this diverges at all from RAW. Remember, there is a 'take 10' provision, which if you start thinking about it is pretty much the same sort of idea as 'passive' skills in the sense that characters can be assumed to accomplish a 'baseline' level of performance in a task when they are given routine circumstances (IE not in the middle of a fight or whatever). Thus a guy wandering down a passage deserves a 'passive' (take 10) Dungeoneering check to notice things that are fairly obvious and where you'd assume the character is paying attention (IE exploring a hazardous dungeon). Its possible to quibble about when this kind of take 10 is appropriate, maybe if a monster jumps you then you don't really have time to think about what it is, you can make a check, but you might fail even if you SHOULD know the answer, you're just flustered or whatever. Anyway, I think it makes reasonable sense to allow for a basic level of competency in most things and treat situations like 'passive checks' where it makes sense. Really all the rules tell us is when the PCs CAN use their skills, but they certainly can use them in other situations as well. I'd always note too that DMs are always free to set any DCs they want based on a situation, so just because the rules may state a DC for some situation the DM might substitute something else when he wants. I'd call that the DMs most commonly exercised prerogative. [/QUOTE]
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