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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 7666491" data-attributes="member: 7006">And therein lies your problem.  4E wasn't a "debacle".  It was a very popular game that many people enjoyed (and still do.)  Just because you didn't like it and keep insisting it was a "debacle" doesn't make it true, regardless of the number of times you say it.  Did the game make enough money to last 10 years on the market?  No.  But did the game make any money for Wizards at all?  Absolutely it did.  One of the issues though was that they not only released the three core books in Year One, they released the second set of three core books in Year One as well.  So they shot their wad in Year One in order to get as much great stuff out to people as quickly as possible... which left Years Three, Four and Five even thinner (and thus shortening the game's publication lifespan)And yet the idea that they're trying in 5E to at least get to Year TWO before releasing the same amount of stuff and people are giving them crap about it is amazing.</blockquote>