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<blockquote data-quote="Adb0782" data-source="post: 8482379" data-attributes="member: 6945705">With custom origin i get a mountain dwarf with 18 int at lv 4 via fey touched and medium armor proficiency. Other feats are lucky at lv 8, resilient (con) at lv 12, +2 int at lv 16. Other stats are 13 str, 14 dex, 17 con (+1 after resilient, so 18), 11 wis, 12 cha.With Vhuman i get 11 str, 14 dex, 16 con, 16 int, 13 wis, 12 cha putting +1/+1 to con and int, plus i get a feat at lv 1. The feat would be lucky, at lv 4 i get +2 int (so it go to 18), lv 8 warcaster and lv 12 +2 int.Which one you would choose considering also that the vhuman don't get any armor proficiency?ps the vhuman probably works better with the first lv of artificer (but it work also just wizard i suppose), as it get con saves and i can put resilient (wis) instead than warcaster, plus it gets armors (that btw i want also becouse of the fact that for make reroll any enemy i need to be within 30 ft from them). The dwarf for sure don't need to waste a lv in other class, but seem it have a more complicated feat's progression, as its con saves are not well protected till lv 12, while the vhuman protect it at lv 8 (or lv 1 if we choose to start artificer).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Adb0782, post: 8482379, member: 6945705"] With custom origin i get a mountain dwarf with 18 int at lv 4 via fey touched and medium armor proficiency. Other feats are lucky at lv 8, resilient (con) at lv 12, +2 int at lv 16. Other stats are 13 str, 14 dex, 17 con (+1 after resilient, so 18), 11 wis, 12 cha. With Vhuman i get 11 str, 14 dex, 16 con, 16 int, 13 wis, 12 cha putting +1/+1 to con and int, plus i get a feat at lv 1. The feat would be lucky, at lv 4 i get +2 int (so it go to 18), lv 8 warcaster and lv 12 +2 int. Which one you would choose considering also that the vhuman don't get any armor proficiency? ps the vhuman probably works better with the first lv of artificer (but it work also just wizard i suppose), as it get con saves and i can put resilient (wis) instead than warcaster, plus it gets armors (that btw i want also becouse of the fact that for make reroll any enemy i need to be within 30 ft from them). The dwarf for sure don't need to waste a lv in other class, but seem it have a more complicated feat's progression, as its con saves are not well protected till lv 12, while the vhuman protect it at lv 8 (or lv 1 if we choose to start artificer). [/QUOTE]

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