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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9794327" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>No it is not always in the same round, given that fighters typically have higher dexterity than Clerics, more often than not the spell will not complete until the second round, because the Cleric will start it after the Fighter's turn and the fighter will complete it in round 2 ... assuming they stayed inside 30 feet for two full rounds.</p><p></p><p>Even when the Cleric goes first and it is one round it will be uncommon that they are right next to each other where there will not be a gap.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Are we bumping the AOE or allowing the Fighter to concentrate on something else? Increasing the AOE on spirit guardians or letting the EK concentrate on SG so the Cleric can cast something else in the second round is rarely going to be better than the EK attacking. Not never better, but rarely better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure it does depend and there are situations it will be better, just most of the time it wll be weak compared to other options.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No it is only 1-2 rounds after you get it turned on. Average combat is generally about 3 rounds, less at high levels.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure it is situationally better, just not generally better.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No usually. Increasing the AOE does require a slot and Tasha's Hideous Laughter or Command is going to be worth more than those 51 squares usually.</p><p></p><p>Heck with Command you can actually force the enemy into that AOE!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9794327, member: 7030563"] No it is not always in the same round, given that fighters typically have higher dexterity than Clerics, more often than not the spell will not complete until the second round, because the Cleric will start it after the Fighter's turn and the fighter will complete it in round 2 ... assuming they stayed inside 30 feet for two full rounds. Even when the Cleric goes first and it is one round it will be uncommon that they are right next to each other where there will not be a gap. Are we bumping the AOE or allowing the Fighter to concentrate on something else? Increasing the AOE on spirit guardians or letting the EK concentrate on SG so the Cleric can cast something else in the second round is rarely going to be better than the EK attacking. Not never better, but rarely better. Sure it does depend and there are situations it will be better, just most of the time it wll be weak compared to other options. No it is only 1-2 rounds after you get it turned on. Average combat is generally about 3 rounds, less at high levels. Sure it is situationally better, just not generally better. No usually. Increasing the AOE does require a slot and Tasha's Hideous Laughter or Command is going to be worth more than those 51 squares usually. Heck with Command you can actually force the enemy into that AOE! [/QUOTE]
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