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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 9794532" data-attributes="member: 6716779">Well I pointed out how much damage 5.5 PCs can dish out. &nbsp;The other thing with circle magic. DM can use it as well. &nbsp;Mostly it's well there's already worse things in the game. &nbsp;Opportunity cost. What else can PCs do instead snd imagine if they knew what to do. &nbsp; Here's a basic one. Sorcerer using tashas mindwhip. New twin spell. Intelligence saves are terrible in 5.5. Im sitting behind the DM screen comparing weak wisdom saves. &nbsp;New Comnand and Tashas hideous laughter. Sure theres situations people are conjuring out of sunlight and moonbeams and saying &quot;look how broken this is&quot;. &nbsp; Another example. Has anyone actually seen Conjure Minor Elementals (unnerfed) in action? Theres 1 theory craft builds that breaks it. In a real game that build is terrible until level 11 or 12 minimum. Anyone here seen it actually happen? &nbsp;Its not even on the radar if things i need to watch out for. I can always say no its gone or use it myself. Worst case scenario.&nbsp;Opportunity cost. Blow a feat and be bad@game most of the time lol.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 9794532, member: 6716779"] Well I pointed out how much damage 5.5 PCs can dish out. The other thing with circle magic. DM can use it as well. Mostly it's well there's already worse things in the game. Opportunity cost. What else can PCs do instead snd imagine if they knew what to do. Here's a basic one. Sorcerer using tashas mindwhip. New twin spell. Intelligence saves are terrible in 5.5. Im sitting behind the DM screen comparing weak wisdom saves. New Comnand and Tashas hideous laughter. Sure theres situations people are conjuring out of sunlight and moonbeams and saying "look how broken this is". Another example. Has anyone actually seen Conjure Minor Elementals (unnerfed) in action? Theres 1 theory craft builds that breaks it. In a real game that build is terrible until level 11 or 12 minimum. Anyone here seen it actually happen? Its not even on the radar if things i need to watch out for. I can always say no its gone or use it myself. Worst case scenario. Opportunity cost. Blow a feat and be bad@game most of the time lol. [/QUOTE]

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