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<blockquote data-quote="CubeB" data-source="post: 7676917" data-attributes="member: 6774905"><p>Is there any way to make it so that character sheets are public? That's a function I could see myself using more than the campaign wiki.</p><p></p><p>See, the way I see it, this thing is competing with several other services...</p><p></p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Obsidian Portal, which has a free option, but is mostly wiki based and has a weaker character sheet system.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Realm Works, which is very expensive at the moment and really works best for in person games as a fancy GM notebook.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">And Google Docs, which is typically what a lot of people I know end up using. The bare bones straight up text document system.</li> </ul><p></p><p></p><p>For this system to work, it has to be easy to use, easy to share, and affordable.</p><p></p><p>In terms of affordability, I can't argue with $3. It makes sense. Bandwidth isn't free.</p><p></p><p>In terms of ease of use... I have no idea what I'm doing, really. I tried converting various pre-existing sheets, building a world... but it's overwhelming. There are tutorial popups in some places, but they're often absent at the points where I need them, and I haven't been able to find a clear "this is how you build an X" tutorial. I think there are videos, but I have to dig through the youtube account to find them.</p><p></p><p>In terms of ease of sharing... This is where it gets rough. One thing I immediately noticed was that it's impossible to share character sheets with people outside the service. The only options are Residents, Affiliates, and Private. That pretty much ruins half of the service's functionality for me, as it would be a great way to store and share sheets otherwise. I don't mind having to pay to make sheets, but locking them up the ability to view a non-interactive version behind a paywall is... I'm really hoping I'm just missing something here. Can they be made public if you link them to a public campaign? Can you even <em>make</em> a public campaign?</p><p></p><p>That's the real issue here - while I am <em>I</em> willing to pay for it, in order for me to get any use out of it <em>the majority of people I play with</em> have to also pay for it. If I use it as a player, my GM has to have a subscription to it in order to see the sheet I made in it. If I use it as a GM, <em>all of my players</em> have to pay for it. There is no Fantasy Grounds style option where the GM can pay a larger price to provide the service to their players for free. </p><p></p><p>And it is very difficult for a GM to get their players to pay for a service; if City of Brass was a must-have service that made everything easier, I would totally be willing to get my players to pay for it. It's cheap enough that I'd be willing to cover the cost for them.</p><p></p><p>...But right now, it's not, really. It's an <em>okay</em> service. Better than my scattered and unformated Google Docs, to be sure. But it has a learning curve, and while I'm confident that I could use it to make strong sheets, setting documents, and campaign logs, the fact that I can't guarantee that anyone else will be able to see them is discouraging me from going much further. Maybe if it were easier to use and had more integrated rule support. </p><p></p><p>I'm still going to try and finish my district, at least. If that turns out to be a stellar feature, then this will be worth the relatively low price of entry. But that still means that 2/3rds of the site's functionality would be hidden behind that pay wall. Especially the character sheets. The fact that the character sheets are subscriber-view only is just <em>tragic</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CubeB, post: 7676917, member: 6774905"] Is there any way to make it so that character sheets are public? That's a function I could see myself using more than the campaign wiki. See, the way I see it, this thing is competing with several other services... [LIST] [*]Obsidian Portal, which has a free option, but is mostly wiki based and has a weaker character sheet system. [*]Realm Works, which is very expensive at the moment and really works best for in person games as a fancy GM notebook. [*]And Google Docs, which is typically what a lot of people I know end up using. The bare bones straight up text document system. [/LIST] For this system to work, it has to be easy to use, easy to share, and affordable. In terms of affordability, I can't argue with $3. It makes sense. Bandwidth isn't free. In terms of ease of use... I have no idea what I'm doing, really. I tried converting various pre-existing sheets, building a world... but it's overwhelming. There are tutorial popups in some places, but they're often absent at the points where I need them, and I haven't been able to find a clear "this is how you build an X" tutorial. I think there are videos, but I have to dig through the youtube account to find them. In terms of ease of sharing... This is where it gets rough. One thing I immediately noticed was that it's impossible to share character sheets with people outside the service. The only options are Residents, Affiliates, and Private. That pretty much ruins half of the service's functionality for me, as it would be a great way to store and share sheets otherwise. I don't mind having to pay to make sheets, but locking them up the ability to view a non-interactive version behind a paywall is... I'm really hoping I'm just missing something here. Can they be made public if you link them to a public campaign? Can you even [I]make[/I] a public campaign? That's the real issue here - while I am [I]I[/I] willing to pay for it, in order for me to get any use out of it [I]the majority of people I play with[/I] have to also pay for it. If I use it as a player, my GM has to have a subscription to it in order to see the sheet I made in it. If I use it as a GM, [I]all of my players[/I] have to pay for it. There is no Fantasy Grounds style option where the GM can pay a larger price to provide the service to their players for free. And it is very difficult for a GM to get their players to pay for a service; if City of Brass was a must-have service that made everything easier, I would totally be willing to get my players to pay for it. It's cheap enough that I'd be willing to cover the cost for them. ...But right now, it's not, really. It's an [I]okay[/I] service. Better than my scattered and unformated Google Docs, to be sure. But it has a learning curve, and while I'm confident that I could use it to make strong sheets, setting documents, and campaign logs, the fact that I can't guarantee that anyone else will be able to see them is discouraging me from going much further. Maybe if it were easier to use and had more integrated rule support. I'm still going to try and finish my district, at least. If that turns out to be a stellar feature, then this will be worth the relatively low price of entry. But that still means that 2/3rds of the site's functionality would be hidden behind that pay wall. Especially the character sheets. The fact that the character sheets are subscriber-view only is just [I]tragic[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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