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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 1574228" data-attributes="member: 114">None of those do the job though... Maze and forcecage just put them out of the way, disintegrate needs a roll to hit *and* allows a fort save which pretty much negates it, ottos irristable dance requires a touch attack (arcane reach noted though), metamagiced scorching ray is the only decent guaranteed damaging spell amongst them (and that is 2nd level, metamagiced up!). I note that you don't mention the laughable Polar Ray, Horrid Wilting is still great but is an area effect spell for targetting lots of people and not just one.Don't get me wrong, of course there are lots of good spells that can be cast - but Tyrol is over-egging his position when he states that fireball wouldn't be used to hit a single target unless the caster was an idiot. Of course there are circumstances when fireball happens to be the best thing to throw at a single target. What if he just ducked round the corner? Without line of effect you can't target him with any of those other neat spells but a fireball is a spread effect which goes round corners, and a maximised, empowered fireball might be a very good choice under those circumstances.(the whole argument about a wizards ability to cause lots of hp damage by targetting lots of foes is pretty specious really. You might as well count up all the damage that a fighter could do by whirlwind attacking or great cleaving through lots of foes too. When it comes down to it, it is the ability to do damage to the main foe that really counts, nobody likes to be relegated to clearing out mooks (and both wizards and fighters have ways of making that easier).)</blockquote>

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