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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 9655629" data-attributes="member: 58416">"A different thread is something I'll likely do later on, after I look at some of the suggestions people have offered throughout this thread.For now, my short elevator pitch would be something like Ptolus, but either fully embracing magi-tech (airships, machines, and such) OR closer to heroic-tier sword & sorcery -rather than the middle of the road mix of fantasy and sci fi. Preferably for games that I currently play." ~me[EMBED content="post-9655440"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/goodman-games-revives-relationship-with-anti-semitic-publisher-for-new-city-state-kickstarter-updated.713282/post-9655440[/EMBED][EMBED content="post-9655427"]https://www.enworld.org/threads/goodman-games-revives-relationship-with-anti-semitic-publisher-for-new-city-state-kickstarter-updated.713282/post-9655427[/EMBED]===Well, let's get to the point; this is "a different thread..."As part of the ongoing discussion about <a href="https://goodman-games.com/announcing-city-state-of-the-invincible-overlord-2/" target="_blank">Goodman Games</a> and their recent product announcement, I asked if there were comparable products available. What do I feel that a comparable product would look like? •A city or city-state based setting with detail and quality meeting at least what would be found in City-State of the Invincible Overlord.•Preferably for DCC (but currently not Lankmar,) but I am also open to GURPS and a few other systems. •Preferably not for D&D 5E, but I'm interested in products that have both a 5E version and a something-else version.•I like a lot of things about Ptolus, but I would prefer something that either a) more-fully embraces the magi-tech and sci-fi elements and goes whole hog with airships and all that jazz ORb) more-fully embraces heroic-tier sword & sorcery •If it's for a system that I currently don't play, I'm potentially open to other things, but would lean toward preferring games that better support breadth of play rather than being as heavily-married to the usual linear & vertical number stacking of contemporary D&D. I'm not opposed to leveling up and stuff like that, but it would be nice to be able to play more than a few levels before the logic of the setting falls apart when compared to the capabilities of the PCs and antagonists. What do you feel might fit at least some of that?</blockquote>

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