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<blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 5779538" data-attributes="member: 3400"><p>You're right on the money about the incivility part there. I think, however, that hanez wasn't getting at the worst elements of our reactions of which we are entirely in our own (lack of-)control. I think he's trying to point out the cause of the width of the rift that WotC is now trying to bridge.</p><p></p><p>For what it's worth, I think there were already plenty of rifts in the D&D community. We've seen them here at ENWorld over arguments about spellcasters being a win button, 15 minute adventuring days, optimizers vs non-optimizers, combat simulators vs story builders, railroaders vs sandboxers, and so on. And in <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/315794-split-bad-thing-4.html#post5764018" target="_blank">another thread</a>, Dragonblade pointed out that the rift between 4e fans and 3.5/PF fans was already there.</p><p></p><p>The difference now is that both sides of that particular rift have territory to defend. That may not have been the case if the 4e designers had taken a more evolutionary approach to D&D. From the standpoint of gaming as a passtime, it may not matter that there are these rifts. After all 4e and PF, as well as the OSR and out of print materials to say nothing of all of the other RPGs out there, allow players of all sorts of stripes to get their fix with the style of game of their choice. But from the perspective of WotC and probably the D&D brand, this is not a good thing, and as a result, it may not be a particularly good thing for the industry (that's up to a lot of conjecture). </p><p></p><p>In the end, if WotC does want something unifying, it'll have to be highly modular or will have to retreat from a lot of the changes in 4e. I think we already saw a lot of defensiveness from 4e fans when 3e fans started assaulting the new D&D paradigm (who, in their turn, had been pretty defensive about what they perceived to be an assault on their D&D paradigm). I think we'll see a lot more of it on both sides before we're through.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="billd91, post: 5779538, member: 3400"] You're right on the money about the incivility part there. I think, however, that hanez wasn't getting at the worst elements of our reactions of which we are entirely in our own (lack of-)control. I think he's trying to point out the cause of the width of the rift that WotC is now trying to bridge. For what it's worth, I think there were already plenty of rifts in the D&D community. We've seen them here at ENWorld over arguments about spellcasters being a win button, 15 minute adventuring days, optimizers vs non-optimizers, combat simulators vs story builders, railroaders vs sandboxers, and so on. And in [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/general-rpg-discussion/315794-split-bad-thing-4.html#post5764018"]another thread[/URL], Dragonblade pointed out that the rift between 4e fans and 3.5/PF fans was already there. The difference now is that both sides of that particular rift have territory to defend. That may not have been the case if the 4e designers had taken a more evolutionary approach to D&D. From the standpoint of gaming as a passtime, it may not matter that there are these rifts. After all 4e and PF, as well as the OSR and out of print materials to say nothing of all of the other RPGs out there, allow players of all sorts of stripes to get their fix with the style of game of their choice. But from the perspective of WotC and probably the D&D brand, this is not a good thing, and as a result, it may not be a particularly good thing for the industry (that's up to a lot of conjecture). In the end, if WotC does want something unifying, it'll have to be highly modular or will have to retreat from a lot of the changes in 4e. I think we already saw a lot of defensiveness from 4e fans when 3e fans started assaulting the new D&D paradigm (who, in their turn, had been pretty defensive about what they perceived to be an assault on their D&D paradigm). I think we'll see a lot more of it on both sides before we're through. [/QUOTE]
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