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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gez" data-source="post: 755492" data-attributes="member: 1328">It's a bit borderline. A bow and an arrow are not carried the same way than a crossbow and a bolt; you bear (if you're right-handed) the bow in the left hand and the arrow in the right (thus, it's a different object in each hand), while you bear the crossbow only, not the bolt. The crossbow+bolt situation is closer to, say, a gun with bullets. Would a DM consider if you put a loaded gun in a GoS only the gun goes, while the loader, ammos, and powder fall ? I doubt it. (Even worse, take a loaded musket with baionnette.)Frankly, I would not consider it possible to put a "loaded bow" in a GoS, although I still think a loaded crossbow pose no problem. That's because a bow can't be loaded, if you stop bearing the arrow, it fall (or rather, get hurled away). That's not the same thing with a crossbow.Now, there's no real balance reason to apply different ruling to bow and crossbow; but it's a common sense reason IMHO. (Beside, you can't have mighty crossbow, so the capacity to quickdraw loaded crossbow from GoS is backed by a slight balance reason.)To answer your question about saving throws, I would consider the bow and the arrow to be each item carried in hand -- so, another roll to see if that's the item in the right hand or the item in the left hand that is affected. With a crossbow, however, since you don't carry the bolt, only the weapon could need to make its save, not the ammunition.</blockquote>

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