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<blockquote data-quote="Pielorinho" data-source="post: 520176" data-attributes="member: 259">I think the deal with scent and blindsight is to allow other shapeshifting creatures to take the feats.&nbsp; A werewolf PC, for example, can assume a form that has the scent ability, and can therefore take the &quot;scent&quot; feat.&nbsp; 3E is modular in nature:&nbsp; they try to build the game in such a way that new pieces can be added easily to it.&nbsp; If someone decides to add a race of beings to their campaign that can turn into porpoises 1/day, they can easily see that their new race has access to the blindsight feat.And the use of &quot;humanoids&quot; rather than &quot;humanoid&quot; in the shifter PrC is hardly a strong argument.&nbsp; We already know that an 8th-level druid can assume the form of animals:&nbsp; even under your interpretation, they have two different forms.&nbsp; Yet the description of wildshape refers to assuming the form of an animal.&nbsp; I think this is just evidence that the writer uses slightly different phrasing in different places in the book.I think the key restriction is in the phrase, &quot;one form per use of this ability.&quot;&nbsp; If they'd wanted to restrict it further, they could have said something like,&quot;At fifth level, the druid may choose one animal whose form he may take once per day.&nbsp; At eighth level, he may choose a new form, for a total of two forms....&quot;The lack of any text like this makes me think you're playing with a nonstandard restriction to the wildshape ability.Daniel</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pielorinho, post: 520176, member: 259"] I think the deal with scent and blindsight is to allow other shapeshifting creatures to take the feats. A werewolf PC, for example, can assume a form that has the scent ability, and can therefore take the "scent" feat. 3E is modular in nature: they try to build the game in such a way that new pieces can be added easily to it. If someone decides to add a race of beings to their campaign that can turn into porpoises 1/day, they can easily see that their new race has access to the blindsight feat. And the use of "humanoids" rather than "humanoid" in the shifter PrC is hardly a strong argument. We already know that an 8th-level druid can assume the form of animals: even under your interpretation, they have two different forms. Yet the description of wildshape refers to assuming the form of an animal. I think this is just evidence that the writer uses slightly different phrasing in different places in the book. I think the key restriction is in the phrase, "one form per use of this ability." If they'd wanted to restrict it further, they could have said something like, "At fifth level, the druid may choose one animal whose form he may take once per day. At eighth level, he may choose a new form, for a total of two forms...." The lack of any text like this makes me think you're playing with a nonstandard restriction to the wildshape ability. Daniel [/QUOTE]

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