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Message: <blockquote data-quote="thatdarnedbob" data-source="post: 4405825" data-attributes="member: 43274">Generally when a player asks for clarification on a ruling his DM makes it's because they disagree, and the player is looking for some ammo. But since that seems to not be the case, here's a little argument for you.First, to answer your question, you did not mention slide in your first post. However, I think that's a defect of your first post, and not of the following argument.So look at the directions for push and slide.Push: When you push a creature, each square you move it must place it farther away from you.Slide: When you slide a creature, there's no restriction on the direction you can move it.We can assume that "you" in this context refers to the in game character that is performing the action which contains the keywords "push X" or "slide X". That is, "you" does not refer to the player or the DM, but rather to an in-game concept.Both entries contain the phrase like "you move it", with "it" referring to the creature being push or slid. With your DM's interpretation that the creature can choose which direction it moves, the meaning of those clauses changes to "it moves", giving us:Push: When you push a creature, each square it moves must place i farther away from you. You would agree that this is an accurate depiction of your DM's current ruling, yes? This brings us to the analogous redefinition of slide.Slide: When you slide a creature, there's no restriction on the direction it moves.This is clearly against the intention of the slide rules and the powers that use slide. There is no point in giving an enemy a free shift. Since we have reached a point where we have an absurdity in the rules, one of our assumptions must be incorrect. The only assumption that is questionable is the one that you can replace "you move it" to "it moves". Thus that assumption is incorrect, and your DM's current ruling is wrong.This has been an argument via reductio ad absurdum, or proof by contradiction as it's sometimes known. Thanks for your time.</blockquote>

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