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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saagael" data-source="post: 4970130" data-attributes="member: 84839">In a recent game one member of our party got to act in a surprise round. They took the opportunity to use an attack that slowed a creature, save ends. The DM then ruled that the creature was allowed a saving throw because its turn passed, it just wasn't able to act on its turn, and thus there was an end to the turn where a save may be made. He then said that the player could avoid this by holding his turn until after the enemy's (theoretical) turn (Everyone had rolled initiative before the surprise round).I want to call shenanigans on the DM for this rule, because, as a DM myself, it seems to make surprise rounds not surprise rounds at all: your foe is caught off-guard, but is still able to react within a second to your attack and shrug it off? Unfortunately I could not find any ruling in the PHB concerning this, for or against this odd ruling. Does anyone else have any more wisdom on this topic?</blockquote>