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Clarifying some rules from Psionics Unleashed/PF Core
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<blockquote data-quote="GregoryOatmeal" data-source="post: 5716468" data-attributes="member: 6667661"><p>Yes, technically rules knowledge has no correlation to imagination. What I was saying is that rules lawyers and munchkins tend to lose sight of character development in favor of an emphasis on power gaming. Their conversations tend to be about why it's a good idea for the barbarian to take a level as a rogue in order to have all of the sneak attack/rage combo benefits of a "stealth barbarian". And ultimately that's what I tend to remember about their character, over any roleplaying. And generally these types roleplay awfully.</p><p></p><p>That's not to say all rules-savvy players are power gamers. But all power gamers are rules-savvy.</p><p></p><p>Lastly rules comprehension enhances gameplay if everyone is on the same page - otherwise it creates huge power imbalances that hinder gameplay. In the case of this player he is effectively as powerful as my other three players because:</p><p>1) He can use all of the rules to his advantage</p><p>2) He owns all of the player materials so he can pick and choose the best race/class combinations</p><p>3) He liberally interprets obscure rules to his benefit</p><p></p><p></p><p>That was all in reference to switching to Castles and Crusades. That was the less rules-intensive game people were frowning at.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Really though, I have a fairly good idea of what I'm doing, what the rogue is capable of, what's challenging and balanced, etc. I'm easily the second most well-versed gamer in the group and I know my 3.5 well-enough. So things tend to get resolved. But honestly:</p><p></p><p>This is the problem. How am I supposed to memorize the details of a third party supplement that he conveniently ignores? This isn't a question of the DM being ignorant of the core rules. With the exception of the glaive thing every single instance I listed refers to specific aspects of psionics buried deep in a third party book. And the glaive thing actually wasn't in the core book anyway, so none of the concerns I brought up are in the core book. But anyway, it's impossible for me to rely on anything short of the honor system to resolve such conflicts over the very obscure details of psionics.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GregoryOatmeal, post: 5716468, member: 6667661"] Yes, technically rules knowledge has no correlation to imagination. What I was saying is that rules lawyers and munchkins tend to lose sight of character development in favor of an emphasis on power gaming. Their conversations tend to be about why it's a good idea for the barbarian to take a level as a rogue in order to have all of the sneak attack/rage combo benefits of a "stealth barbarian". And ultimately that's what I tend to remember about their character, over any roleplaying. And generally these types roleplay awfully. That's not to say all rules-savvy players are power gamers. But all power gamers are rules-savvy. Lastly rules comprehension enhances gameplay if everyone is on the same page - otherwise it creates huge power imbalances that hinder gameplay. In the case of this player he is effectively as powerful as my other three players because: 1) He can use all of the rules to his advantage 2) He owns all of the player materials so he can pick and choose the best race/class combinations 3) He liberally interprets obscure rules to his benefit That was all in reference to switching to Castles and Crusades. That was the less rules-intensive game people were frowning at. Really though, I have a fairly good idea of what I'm doing, what the rogue is capable of, what's challenging and balanced, etc. I'm easily the second most well-versed gamer in the group and I know my 3.5 well-enough. So things tend to get resolved. But honestly: This is the problem. How am I supposed to memorize the details of a third party supplement that he conveniently ignores? This isn't a question of the DM being ignorant of the core rules. With the exception of the glaive thing every single instance I listed refers to specific aspects of psionics buried deep in a third party book. And the glaive thing actually wasn't in the core book anyway, so none of the concerns I brought up are in the core book. But anyway, it's impossible for me to rely on anything short of the honor system to resolve such conflicts over the very obscure details of psionics. [/QUOTE]
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