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<blockquote data-quote="Bluenose" data-source="post: 6361510" data-attributes="member: 49017">So what's the niche that the Wizard has that doesn't have other classes in it, and what niches do they have to stay out of because the spells that let them play in it will never exist?You'll note that this is the desired play-style for some people. Note elsewhere in the thread where it's explicitly said that everyone has access to magic and therefore this sort of imbalance is fine. Because by the definition of the person saying it, magic is expected to be superior to not-magic. It's not supposed to improve a person to the point where they can attempt something that they otherwise couldn't do, it's required to succeed - or at least to work at the caster end, although despite the heavily nerfed nature of saving throws compared to traditional D&amp;D, they are available. Also, Fighters can't have nice things, because they can do them At Will and that wouldn't be fair when the casters don't get to do everything they have as At Will effects. So forget crippling people with weapons, it's hit points or nothing and dead or fully functional, except Magic! can override that the way it's supposed to.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bluenose, post: 6361510, member: 49017"] So what's the niche that the Wizard has that doesn't have other classes in it, and what niches do they have to stay out of because the spells that let them play in it will never exist? You'll note that this is the desired play-style for some people. Note elsewhere in the thread where it's explicitly said that everyone has access to magic and therefore this sort of imbalance is fine. Because by the definition of the person saying it, magic is expected to be superior to not-magic. It's not supposed to improve a person to the point where they can attempt something that they otherwise couldn't do, it's required to succeed - or at least to work at the caster end, although despite the heavily nerfed nature of saving throws compared to traditional D&D, they are available. Also, Fighters can't have nice things, because they can do them At Will and that wouldn't be fair when the casters don't get to do everything they have as At Will effects. So forget crippling people with weapons, it's hit points or nothing and dead or fully functional, except Magic! can override that the way it's supposed to. [/QUOTE]

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