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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 6362156" data-attributes="member: 15700">A couple problems with this.&nbsp; First, the ways a spellcaster can do those things (through magic) are NOT guaranteed.&nbsp; I'm not sure why this keeps getting ignored.&nbsp; Does the caster even have access to that spell?&nbsp; Have they learned it?&nbsp; Prep'd it?&nbsp; Have enough slots to cast it?&nbsp; The list goes on.&nbsp; The second part is that even if a caster has an ability that is more potent than the fighter, the fact that they may not be able to do it at all (for aforementioned reasons) doesn't mean that the caster is overall more powerful than the fighter.For example, as soon as a caster reaches 5th level, they can cast fireball.&nbsp; That spell is more powerful than any single attack by a fighter.&nbsp; However, because of the many requirements needed to cast it, and the limitations around casting it (again, all mentioned above), you wouldn't say that the mage is suddenly more powerful than the fighter overall.&nbsp; Let's say you had five encounters between long rest.&nbsp; Congrats, you were lucky enough to have that spell, and have it prepared, and to have a slot available.&nbsp; But you burned that spell on the first encounter.&nbsp; Is the wizard still more powerful than the fighter for the rest of the encounters?&nbsp; Another flawed argument.&nbsp; You cannot allow a caster to ad hoc magical effects that may or may not be a defined spell like you can with a mundane action.&nbsp; Magic is rigidly defined as to what you can and can't do.&nbsp; Mundane actions aren't.&nbsp; If you're talking about allowing casters to ad hoc mundane actions like a fighter, that's cool.&nbsp; Because chances are the mage doesn't have the physical attributes to be nearly as good as the fighter when coming up with an ah hoc ruling.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 6362156, member: 15700"] A couple problems with this. First, the ways a spellcaster can do those things (through magic) are [B]NOT [/B]guaranteed. I'm not sure why this keeps getting ignored. Does the caster even have access to that spell? Have they learned it? Prep'd it? Have enough slots to cast it? The list goes on. The second part is that even if a caster has an ability that is more potent than the fighter, the fact that they may not be able to do it at all (for aforementioned reasons) doesn't mean that the caster is overall more powerful than the fighter. For example, as soon as a caster reaches 5th level, they can cast fireball. That spell is more powerful than any single attack by a fighter. However, because of the many requirements needed to cast it, and the limitations around casting it (again, all mentioned above), you wouldn't say that the mage is suddenly more powerful than the fighter overall. Let's say you had five encounters between long rest. Congrats, you were lucky enough to have that spell, and have it prepared, and to have a slot available. But you burned that spell on the first encounter. Is the wizard still more powerful than the fighter for the rest of the encounters? Another flawed argument. You cannot allow a caster to ad hoc magical effects that may or may not be a defined spell like you can with a mundane action. Magic is rigidly defined as to what you can and can't do. Mundane actions aren't. If you're talking about allowing casters to ad hoc mundane actions like a fighter, that's cool. Because chances are the mage doesn't have the physical attributes to be nearly as good as the fighter when coming up with an ah hoc ruling. [/QUOTE]

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