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<blockquote data-quote="Gladius Legis" data-source="post: 6362316" data-attributes="member: 68748">Just a quibble ... he really isn't. Sure, the Bard gets those Smite spells earlier, but they also (a) cost a bonus action, (b) require Concentration, which means the Bard has no other buffs up while trying to get that one hit, and (c) can't poach the Divine Smite feature which doesn't even use an action at all (and the Paladin can actually stack on top of a Smite spell's damage). Personally, I'd much rather take Haste with Magical Secrets than ANY Smite spell. Then cast Haste on a Barbarian, Paladin or Blade Warlock for a much more efficient damage boost than if I were to cast it on myself. For that matter, there's probably a few other Lv. 3-5 spells that would be on my Magical Secrets list before the Smite spells. Bards with Smite spells are a neat gimmick and nothing more.But, yeah, anyway, the idea of using Faerie Fire as the example of how Bards do sooooo much more damage than Fighters is laughable, when it's Fighters who are putting the Bard's damage boost from that spell to use in the first place. If the 5e Bard is overpowered compared to the Fighter, so was the 4e Warlord (who probably was overpowered to be fair, but still needed good melee allies to actually do anything).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gladius Legis, post: 6362316, member: 68748"] Just a quibble ... he really isn't. Sure, the Bard gets those Smite spells earlier, but they also (a) cost a bonus action, (b) require Concentration, which means the Bard has no other buffs up while trying to get that one hit, and (c) can't poach the Divine Smite feature which doesn't even use an action at all (and the Paladin can actually stack on top of a Smite spell's damage). Personally, I'd much rather take Haste with Magical Secrets than ANY Smite spell. Then cast Haste on a Barbarian, Paladin or Blade Warlock for a much more efficient damage boost than if I were to cast it on myself. For that matter, there's probably a few other Lv. 3-5 spells that would be on my Magical Secrets list before the Smite spells. Bards with Smite spells are a neat gimmick and nothing more. But, yeah, anyway, the idea of using Faerie Fire as the example of how Bards do sooooo much more damage than Fighters is laughable, when it's Fighters who are putting the Bard's damage boost from that spell to use in the first place. If the 5e Bard is overpowered compared to the Fighter, so was the 4e Warlord (who probably was overpowered to be fair, but still needed good melee allies to actually do anything). [/QUOTE]

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