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<blockquote data-quote="Andor" data-source="post: 6363071" data-attributes="member: 1879">My answer to that is you can. Conan was blessed with plot armour. I don't know too many game systems where tossing a stool is going to kill anyone in one hit, let alone before a readied action can go off. As for Boromir he demonstrated tremendous strength, endurance and courage. When it came to it he single-handedly killed dozens of orcs before he was finally felled by massed archers, buying his companions time to escape. That sounds exactly like what would happen to a high level champion without magical backup in that same scenario. Where does the problem lie?Define powerful. A high level fighter is worth dozens of lesser men in combat. He can chop a warhorse in half in a single blow and jump off a building without even slowing down. He is about on par with Captain America and maybe even Wolverine. The problem is not that the fighter isn't powerful. It's that punching someone in the face is not as deadly as shooting them wih a LAW. So you're looking at Captain America and wondering why he doesn't get to use the cool toys. He does, he just has to get trained in them first, just like you can't fly a plane without training.Or he has to go out and get the cool toy. The DMG is probably going to include classic D&amp;D items like flying carpets and brooms. Why would you give those to the Mage who can already fly? Kit like that goes to the fighter. And a fighter with a flying carpet, a +1 bow, and a barrel of arrows can kill the Terrasque without risk. Whither balance?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Andor, post: 6363071, member: 1879"] My answer to that is you can. Conan was blessed with plot armour. I don't know too many game systems where tossing a stool is going to kill anyone in one hit, let alone before a readied action can go off. As for Boromir he demonstrated tremendous strength, endurance and courage. When it came to it he single-handedly killed dozens of orcs before he was finally felled by massed archers, buying his companions time to escape. That sounds exactly like what would happen to a high level champion without magical backup in that same scenario. Where does the problem lie? Define powerful. A high level fighter is worth dozens of lesser men in combat. He can chop a warhorse in half in a single blow and jump off a building without even slowing down. He is about on par with Captain America and maybe even Wolverine. The problem is not that the fighter isn't powerful. It's that punching someone in the face is not as deadly as shooting them wih a LAW. So you're looking at Captain America and wondering why he doesn't get to use the cool toys. He does, he just has to get trained in them first, just like you can't fly a plane without training. Or he has to go out and get the cool toy. The DMG is probably going to include classic D&D items like flying carpets and brooms. Why would you give those to the Mage who can already fly? Kit like that goes to the fighter. And a fighter with a flying carpet, a +1 bow, and a barrel of arrows can kill the Terrasque without risk. Whither balance? [/QUOTE]

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