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<blockquote data-quote="Jack the Lad" data-source="post: 6363785" data-attributes="member: 6777377">You seem to be misunderstanding me; I'm talking about casting Wall of Force over and around the Monk, trapping them under the dome. Not casting it as a wall to keep one away. This has been possible at least since the February playtest packet..I've seen the CR16 Adult Blue Dragon, the CR17 Adult Red Dragon, the CR24 Ancient Red Dragon and the CR30 Tarrasque. I don't know why you wouldn't expect to be level 17+ when you're fighting those kinds of monsters..?
Magic Jar allowed you to permanently possess a creature's body with an opposed casting stat vs Charisma check in the playtest, gaining all its abilities but keeping your class features and spellcasting. It gave you a 93% chance of success against the Tarrasque. This is something that was dealt with easily enough that you don't feel it's worth mentioning it specifically?It's not poorly worded, you just haven't read it:You're making an awful lot of mistakes in terms of rules, some of which are attributable to changes that have been made since the playtest and some that I know from playtest packets that I saw are not.You're dismissing incredibly powerful save-or-lose spells like Sequester and Contagion as useless and you don't understand how spells like Wall of Force or True Polymorph work.Based on your posts, I'm afraid I can't help thinking that your 'nearly 600 hours' of play experience isn't serving you well here.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Jack the Lad, post: 6363785, member: 6777377"] You seem to be misunderstanding me; I'm talking about casting Wall of Force over and around the Monk, trapping them under the dome. Not casting it as a wall to keep one away. This has been possible at least since the February playtest packet.. I've seen the CR16 Adult Blue Dragon, the CR17 Adult Red Dragon, the CR24 Ancient Red Dragon and the CR30 Tarrasque. I don't know why you wouldn't expect to be level 17+ when you're fighting those kinds of monsters..? [INDENT] [/INDENT] Magic Jar allowed you to permanently possess a creature's body with an opposed casting stat vs Charisma check in the playtest, gaining all its abilities but keeping your class features and spellcasting. It gave you a 93% chance of success against the Tarrasque. This is something that was dealt with easily enough that you don't feel it's worth mentioning it specifically? It's not poorly worded, you just haven't read it: You're making an awful lot of mistakes in terms of rules, some of which are attributable to changes that have been made since the playtest and some that I know from playtest packets that I saw are not. You're dismissing incredibly powerful save-or-lose spells like Sequester and Contagion as useless and you don't understand how spells like Wall of Force or True Polymorph work. Based on your posts, I'm afraid I can't help thinking that your 'nearly 600 hours' of play experience isn't serving you well here. [/QUOTE]

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