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Message: <blockquote data-quote="yakuba" data-source="post: 6366003" data-attributes="member: 6698582">The Fighter design goals only define the fighter relative to other classes, and my point did not address that. I tend to agree with the OP on that count.On PHB p15:How is this inconsistent with what I said? The fate of the world depends on the actions of the Fellowship, and the fighters are clearly shown being far elevated from the common in their prowess, but they do not have mythic powers or strength, at no point does Gimli divert the flow of a river to clean out some stables, nor does Legolas hold his breath for 5 days.Fantasy literature as well as our myths and legends are incredibly diverse. This creates a huge window for any game designer to designate as the max level experience.They did not promise you Heracles in this edition.</blockquote>