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<blockquote data-quote="Apok" data-source="post: 588810" data-attributes="member: 1969"><p>Alot of really good ideas in this thread so far. I especially like MThibault's idea for Bards using the Perform skill to increase their DC's. Monte Cook already incorporated this concept into his alt.Bard from the BoEMII but it could easily be ported over. </p><p></p><p>One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet but I'd like to see;</p><p></p><p>Reconciling a Bards Light and Medium Armor proficiency with their Spellcasting. </p><p></p><p>As it stands now, the Bard is the only class that has two abilities which directly conflict with each other without some form of workaround. They have two excellent armor profs but they suffer spell failure chance because their spells are arcane. This blows bigtime and I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out what the heck the designers were thinking when they did this. The best fix I can think of to this issue is either a) change the Bards spellcasting from Arcane to Divine or b) give them some class ability that lets them ignore some percentage of ASF while wearing armor, ala the Spellsword. </p><p></p><p>The only other way to deal with the issue would be to get rid of their armor profs or their spellcasting. In either case, the Bard better get something damn good to compensate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Apok, post: 588810, member: 1969"] Alot of really good ideas in this thread so far. I especially like MThibault's idea for Bards using the Perform skill to increase their DC's. Monte Cook already incorporated this concept into his alt.Bard from the BoEMII but it could easily be ported over. One thing that hasn't been mentioned yet but I'd like to see; Reconciling a Bards Light and Medium Armor proficiency with their Spellcasting. As it stands now, the Bard is the only class that has two abilities which directly conflict with each other without some form of workaround. They have two excellent armor profs but they suffer spell failure chance because their spells are arcane. This blows bigtime and I've been wracking my brain trying to figure out what the heck the designers were thinking when they did this. The best fix I can think of to this issue is either a) change the Bards spellcasting from Arcane to Divine or b) give them some class ability that lets them ignore some percentage of ASF while wearing armor, ala the Spellsword. The only other way to deal with the issue would be to get rid of their armor profs or their spellcasting. In either case, the Bard better get something damn good to compensate. [/QUOTE]
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