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Class Balance In A5E: How Much Damage Should A Damage Dealer Deal?
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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8084567" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>We are talking specifics, jumping past the method to a possible death spiral situation allows no room for discussion. Unless I missed one, I'm the only one to reference anything specific that could lead to something worth calling "stun lock" Yes, 1d4+1 rounds of <a href="https://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#paralyzed" target="_blank">paralysis</a> that a ghoul could cause was terrifying... It also had a dc13 con save and was found on an ac14 creature with 13 hp & +2 to hit who ad to hit you before you even were subject to making that save. If we assume a massive 10 dex......</p><p>[spoiler="Some starting packages"]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]125969[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]125970[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]125972[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]125974[/ATTACH][/spoiler]</p><p></p><p>The ghoul was't terrifying because it was certain to stunlock you & trigger a death spiral/tpk. It was terrifying because the risk of it rolling high & you rolling low was enough to force the party to step up their game somehow. If d&d were a single player game it would probably be an overpowered creature, but the unlucky guy who gets hit <em>and </em>fails the save has the rest of the party to save themfrom the yard trash. Not only that but now bob is probably severely wounded or Alice the cleric dumps way too many spell slots healing him to risk chasing the bbeg today.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8084567, member: 93670"] We are talking specifics, jumping past the method to a possible death spiral situation allows no room for discussion. Unless I missed one, I'm the only one to reference anything specific that could lead to something worth calling "stun lock" Yes, 1d4+1 rounds of [URL='https://www.d20srd.org/srd/conditionSummary.htm#paralyzed']paralysis[/URL] that a ghoul could cause was terrifying... It also had a dc13 con save and was found on an ac14 creature with 13 hp & +2 to hit who ad to hit you before you even were subject to making that save. If we assume a massive 10 dex...... [spoiler="Some starting packages"] [ATTACH type="full"]125969[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]125970[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]125972[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full"]125974[/ATTACH][/spoiler] The ghoul was't terrifying because it was certain to stunlock you & trigger a death spiral/tpk. It was terrifying because the risk of it rolling high & you rolling low was enough to force the party to step up their game somehow. If d&d were a single player game it would probably be an overpowered creature, but the unlucky guy who gets hit [I]and [/I]fails the save has the rest of the party to save themfrom the yard trash. Not only that but now bob is probably severely wounded or Alice the cleric dumps way too many spell slots healing him to risk chasing the bbeg today. [/QUOTE]
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