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<blockquote data-quote="hanez" data-source="post: 5781026" data-attributes="member: 82160">Sure.... but if that was sufficient 4e would have captured those players who could have just used unbalanced &quot;house rules&quot; or expansions.&nbsp; Instead, I believe they played the game as described in the first 3 books, found its strict balance to be comparably boring to what they were used to, and abandoned the game for something else.&nbsp; That may happen again if 5e leaves what we like for a Mod.I highly disagree with your assessment of that being the case pre-4e.&nbsp; I have had many fighter players that would disagree, Taku:lightbringer (my brothers half orc barbarian), and Babo Gutwrencher (my friends dwarven fighter) often laughed at the weakling wizard (who, granted, would one day amaze them too).But I agree that 5e should aim for closer balance between the two.&nbsp; Maybe the fighter is unbeatable in one-on-one fights with big baddies, and the wizard is unbeatable on one to many fights with their minions?&nbsp; As long as it isn't balanced because they have the same amount of powers, and that there powers do roughly the same thing (as in 4e), I will at least give the system a try.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hanez, post: 5781026, member: 82160"] Sure.... but if that was sufficient 4e would have captured those players who could have just used unbalanced "house rules" or expansions. Instead, I believe they played the game as described in the first 3 books, found its strict balance to be comparably boring to what they were used to, and abandoned the game for something else. That may happen again if 5e leaves what we like for a Mod. I highly disagree with your assessment of that being the case pre-4e. I have had many fighter players that would disagree, Taku:lightbringer (my brothers half orc barbarian), and Babo Gutwrencher (my friends dwarven fighter) often laughed at the weakling wizard (who, granted, would one day amaze them too). But I agree that 5e should aim for closer balance between the two. Maybe the fighter is unbeatable in one-on-one fights with big baddies, and the wizard is unbeatable on one to many fights with their minions? As long as it isn't balanced because they have the same amount of powers, and that there powers do roughly the same thing (as in 4e), I will at least give the system a try. [/QUOTE]

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