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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 5782114" data-attributes="member: 5143">No one in our group would play a single class thief.  It was no fun at all.  You NEEDED a thief because there were traps in every dungeon.  Deadly ones that would kill the whole party if they weren't found and disarmed.  But playing a single classed thief meant you were more a tool that got taken out of the backpack long enough to search the door and disarm, then put back in.  During combat, you had to watch other people have fun.  Unless you multiclassed with something that could fight.I also don't think that "If you fight less, the problem becomes less important" is a solution.  It's very similar to the Oberoni Fallacy.  The idea is that if combat is no fun for some of those classes, it should be fixed so that even if you spend 100% of your time doing combat, the game is still fun.</blockquote>