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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5782280" data-attributes="member: 9037">This is what drives me crazy people complaining about wizards being over powered in 3.5 then using examples that are not in the core books. I am going to be the first one to admit that once you start adding stuff from splat books and non core races it can change the balance quite a bit. But using core races only you are not starting with a 20 in intelligence. And if you want an 18 you can have it but if you are using point buy at 32 then the rest of your stats are going to be great. 99% of the time the only races we have available to us is from the core books. I don't think I have ever seen a grey/high/gold elf as a choice outside of a Kingdoms of Kalamar campaign I played in.</blockquote>