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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 5782301" data-attributes="member: 9037">As I said in my other post if you use the core races you can't get an 20 in intelligence. If a DM is going to allow races in that are not core then he needs to realize that he may have a balance issue. You know you can throw lower level creatures at them as well basically minions. I have never played where we just faced one bad guy unless it was something major like a dragon. And it takes a team to take down a dragon. Sure you may get very very lucky and take it out with a save VS death spell but their saves tend to be to good for that. They roll a 1 goodbye. And yes at that instant the wizard shines.&nbsp; But in 30 years of playing I saw this happen once. I was playing a cleric and I was so glad the wizard pulled it off because we were the last ones still alive and I had 2 hit points left.&nbsp; Also we rarely reach the BBEG at full strength we have had to fight our way to him. I can't think of any big encounter that we took on fully rested usually you have several layers of his hirelings to get through first. That is the way I design my encounters and it seems to be the way Pazio designs their adventure paths.As for a +6 at 9 level first of all 9 level is not what I consider low. Secondly that is&nbsp; all their wealth so if they want a +6 they can't have anything else without going over their wealth level. Even if it costs only 18 000 to make it still counts as 36 000 for determining wealth levels.So if you stick with the RAW it will be unusual to see any character with a +6 item as early as 9 level. You do count their weapons, armor, potions , scrolls, wands as well as gems and gold as wealth.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 5782301, member: 9037"] As I said in my other post if you use the core races you can't get an 20 in intelligence. If a DM is going to allow races in that are not core then he needs to realize that he may have a balance issue. You know you can throw lower level creatures at them as well basically minions. I have never played where we just faced one bad guy unless it was something major like a dragon. And it takes a team to take down a dragon. Sure you may get very very lucky and take it out with a save VS death spell but their saves tend to be to good for that. They roll a 1 goodbye. And yes at that instant the wizard shines. But in 30 years of playing I saw this happen once. I was playing a cleric and I was so glad the wizard pulled it off because we were the last ones still alive and I had 2 hit points left. Also we rarely reach the BBEG at full strength we have had to fight our way to him. I can't think of any big encounter that we took on fully rested usually you have several layers of his hirelings to get through first. That is the way I design my encounters and it seems to be the way Pazio designs their adventure paths. As for a +6 at 9 level first of all 9 level is not what I consider low. Secondly that is all their wealth so if they want a +6 they can't have anything else without going over their wealth level. Even if it costs only 18 000 to make it still counts as 36 000 for determining wealth levels. So if you stick with the RAW it will be unusual to see any character with a +6 item as early as 9 level. You do count their weapons, armor, potions , scrolls, wands as well as gems and gold as wealth. [/QUOTE]

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