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<blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 5784275" data-attributes="member: 22622">SOrry, i carry a card as a long time pro 3.5 veteran in the war.&nbsp; I still look at 4e folk suspiciously in the grocery store and I won't let my kids go to school with them. I don't think balance means copycat, it means making sure that a 4th level character can only do 3d6 damage a turn, no matter what they are.&nbsp; How that damage is done, where its done and how its issued out is completely up to the mechanics and can be quite diverse.&nbsp; I have no problem with god games, love mutants and mastermind. I think a game works right if its the whole game for the basic core of the game. I mean, you've never played monopoly after 4 hours he game turned into DIe Macher.&nbsp; No, it stays monpoly. So why does DnD suddenly change games after level 14 or 15 and starts getting power creepy about 12. I get the emotional inestment that everyone has. No one wants a dnd without&nbsp; their timestops or meteor storms and such. And I guet that iconic spells should be there. But tone them down and balance them with other abilities.&nbsp; It's not about everyone shining, its about everyone having an equal chance to play and have a good time.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DonTadow, post: 5784275, member: 22622"] SOrry, i carry a card as a long time pro 3.5 veteran in the war. I still look at 4e folk suspiciously in the grocery store and I won't let my kids go to school with them. I don't think balance means copycat, it means making sure that a 4th level character can only do 3d6 damage a turn, no matter what they are. How that damage is done, where its done and how its issued out is completely up to the mechanics and can be quite diverse. I have no problem with god games, love mutants and mastermind. I think a game works right if its the whole game for the basic core of the game. I mean, you've never played monopoly after 4 hours he game turned into DIe Macher. No, it stays monpoly. So why does DnD suddenly change games after level 14 or 15 and starts getting power creepy about 12. I get the emotional inestment that everyone has. No one wants a dnd without their timestops or meteor storms and such. And I guet that iconic spells should be there. But tone them down and balance them with other abilities. It's not about everyone shining, its about everyone having an equal chance to play and have a good time. [/QUOTE]

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