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<blockquote data-quote="hanez" data-source="post: 5794911" data-attributes="member: 82160">Well.&nbsp; I cant speak for everyone, but by knowing a lot of players and being active in the edition type posts, I can honestly say Ive never seen &quot;making martial classes stronger&quot; as a criticism of 4th.&nbsp; I have to say that is something I would compliment 4th for very much.I loved giving the fighter powers I think the criticism comes from forcing EVERY CLASS into the same power structure, not everyone has to have the exact same at wills, encounters and dailies.&nbsp; One class (perhaps the fighter) could have mostly at wills that are comparitively weaker then another class (perhaps a wizard) that has mostly dailies.&nbsp;&nbsp; When people such as myself argue against balance, we arent saying &quot;dont make the fighter stronger&quot; we are saying dont force them all into the exact same mold.PS I also think there should be a martial class like the wizard (many spells/powers) and a arcane class like the 3e fighter (pretty much straight at wills, like the 3e warlock).&nbsp; This would give people more choices.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="hanez, post: 5794911, member: 82160"] Well. I cant speak for everyone, but by knowing a lot of players and being active in the edition type posts, I can honestly say Ive never seen "making martial classes stronger" as a criticism of 4th. I have to say that is something I would compliment 4th for very much. I loved giving the fighter powers I think the criticism comes from forcing EVERY CLASS into the same power structure, not everyone has to have the exact same at wills, encounters and dailies. One class (perhaps the fighter) could have mostly at wills that are comparitively weaker then another class (perhaps a wizard) that has mostly dailies. When people such as myself argue against balance, we arent saying "dont make the fighter stronger" we are saying dont force them all into the exact same mold. PS I also think there should be a martial class like the wizard (many spells/powers) and a arcane class like the 3e fighter (pretty much straight at wills, like the 3e warlock). This would give people more choices. [/QUOTE]

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